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+ | == Zameen said ... == | ||
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+ | it seems a re- ocurring theme in the first years of the center. And to think that the members were chosen due to their spirit-forms level of evolution. Obviously the mission is currently viewed as a success and as I understand it, Billy is ahead of schedule in many ways. So when I read this material I take solace in this thought. | ||
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+ | --[[User:Zameen|Zameen]] 18:36, 11 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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+ | == Hawaiian said ... == | ||
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+ | This Contact Report 121 occurred on Mar 24 1979 about 3 years after the Giza Intelligences were removed from Earth and unfortunately the in-fighting at the Center continued. I assumed the “selection” of group members were left to “normal” creational methods, where the most spiritualy evolved as well as some of the 144,128 former degenerate Sons and Daughters of heavens (those responsible for evil religions) were afforded priority listing of Billy’s inner circle. | ||
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+ | It is ironic that those lesser spiritually evolved (victims) were not afforded such priority (accordingly to Creational standards of evolution), yet those responsible were first in line while others were sent to the “end of the bus”. Based on the Pljaren investigation and I assume with the advice of the High Council, they decided to end the mission (at least based on their particular prospectives) | ||
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+ | There appears to be very little or no input from those being effected the most, yet the decisions are being one-sided from those in power to do so. One has to ponder, where were these entities when the actual degenerations were taking place and why wait until now after all the damages have occurred, then have the capacity to dictate such high handiness to those struggling to meet these “standards” the Plejaren demanded of BEAM? | ||
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+ | It is during this time frame leading up to Contact Report about 18 months later that the Plejaren Quetzal conducted an experiment with two androids, one representing the core group and the other Billy before concluded they were wrong and unreasonable. However it took further investigations including the necessary inputs from Billy himself to finally persuade these Plejarens to reconsider. | ||
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+ | More such experiments should be forthcoming to address other issues as well including utilizing their personality analysis investigations. I firmly believe that if one is not part of the solution, then that person is part of the problem and that current involvement not delayed action is the proper avenue. As in the former, often resolutions require to re-connect to the past for both parties to find a common ground, to do otherwise is to dis-connect, thus results in dis-harmony. | ||
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+ | Contact Report 137 | ||
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+ | Date/time of contact: Saturday, the 18th of October 1980, 10:47 PM | ||
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+ | Semjase tells Billy about an experiment Quetzal made on two Androids where one was programmed with data from the group members, and the other data from Billy. The results were comical, however also fatal. It is unfathomable to the Plejaren how Billy has withstood such illogicalness from the group members, and have realised that they (the Plejaren) actually expected too much from Billy. However, Billy's health was currently getting better through his own efforts and with the aid of an apparatus from Quetzal. | ||
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+ | --[[User:Barbarian216|Hawaiian]] 20:24, 11 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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+ | == Markvd said ... == | ||
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+ | I find it quite interesting that certain members can reach such a high level of development when they are not so accurate in ability and duty. They must have some really good talent to evolve to such a high level. I wonder if Ashtar was a crazed genius and evolved naturally or was he a processed personality that forcefully gained his capability. I am glad to hear Zameen that we are currently or slightly ahead of schedule. If they didn't understand the first 6 prophets and now BEAM to an extent it's good to be a bit ahead to curb the equational difference of the times. :) | ||
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+ | --[[User:Markvd|Markvd]] 00:32, 12 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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+ | == RemR said ... == | ||
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+ | I remember in Randy Winters' tape set, hearing his opinion that there were only about 120 contacts in total. I remember hearing that, and taking it with a grain of salt. Here we get to see for ourselves why he felt like he could form an opinion like that, which, of course, is only an opinion of his. I wonder if he just gave up after reading Contact Report 120 and 121 up until the continuation of the contact...? Who knows. With such little hope left after reading that contact, I can imagine that many people, especially people who just skim and don't actually read and understand, might assume that this was going to be the end. | ||
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+ | --[[User:RemRobinson|RemR]] 17:32, 13 April 2011 (BST) | ||
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Latest revision as of 03:32, 14 April 2011
Comments on Contact Report 121 <comments />
Alive said ...
Zameen said ...
it seems a re- ocurring theme in the first years of the center. And to think that the members were chosen due to their spirit-forms level of evolution. Obviously the mission is currently viewed as a success and as I understand it, Billy is ahead of schedule in many ways. So when I read this material I take solace in this thought.
--Zameen 18:36, 11 April 2011 (BST)
Hawaiian said ...
This Contact Report 121 occurred on Mar 24 1979 about 3 years after the Giza Intelligences were removed from Earth and unfortunately the in-fighting at the Center continued. I assumed the “selection” of group members were left to “normal” creational methods, where the most spiritualy evolved as well as some of the 144,128 former degenerate Sons and Daughters of heavens (those responsible for evil religions) were afforded priority listing of Billy’s inner circle.
It is ironic that those lesser spiritually evolved (victims) were not afforded such priority (accordingly to Creational standards of evolution), yet those responsible were first in line while others were sent to the “end of the bus”. Based on the Pljaren investigation and I assume with the advice of the High Council, they decided to end the mission (at least based on their particular prospectives)
There appears to be very little or no input from those being effected the most, yet the decisions are being one-sided from those in power to do so. One has to ponder, where were these entities when the actual degenerations were taking place and why wait until now after all the damages have occurred, then have the capacity to dictate such high handiness to those struggling to meet these “standards” the Plejaren demanded of BEAM?
It is during this time frame leading up to Contact Report about 18 months later that the Plejaren Quetzal conducted an experiment with two androids, one representing the core group and the other Billy before concluded they were wrong and unreasonable. However it took further investigations including the necessary inputs from Billy himself to finally persuade these Plejarens to reconsider.
More such experiments should be forthcoming to address other issues as well including utilizing their personality analysis investigations. I firmly believe that if one is not part of the solution, then that person is part of the problem and that current involvement not delayed action is the proper avenue. As in the former, often resolutions require to re-connect to the past for both parties to find a common ground, to do otherwise is to dis-connect, thus results in dis-harmony.
Contact Report 137
Date/time of contact: Saturday, the 18th of October 1980, 10:47 PM
Semjase tells Billy about an experiment Quetzal made on two Androids where one was programmed with data from the group members, and the other data from Billy. The results were comical, however also fatal. It is unfathomable to the Plejaren how Billy has withstood such illogicalness from the group members, and have realised that they (the Plejaren) actually expected too much from Billy. However, Billy's health was currently getting better through his own efforts and with the aid of an apparatus from Quetzal.
--Hawaiian 20:24, 11 April 2011 (BST)
Markvd said ...
I find it quite interesting that certain members can reach such a high level of development when they are not so accurate in ability and duty. They must have some really good talent to evolve to such a high level. I wonder if Ashtar was a crazed genius and evolved naturally or was he a processed personality that forcefully gained his capability. I am glad to hear Zameen that we are currently or slightly ahead of schedule. If they didn't understand the first 6 prophets and now BEAM to an extent it's good to be a bit ahead to curb the equational difference of the times. :)
--Markvd 00:32, 12 April 2011 (BST)
RemR said ...
I remember in Randy Winters' tape set, hearing his opinion that there were only about 120 contacts in total. I remember hearing that, and taking it with a grain of salt. Here we get to see for ourselves why he felt like he could form an opinion like that, which, of course, is only an opinion of his. I wonder if he just gave up after reading Contact Report 120 and 121 up until the continuation of the contact...? Who knows. With such little hope left after reading that contact, I can imagine that many people, especially people who just skim and don't actually read and understand, might assume that this was going to be the end.
--RemR 17:32, 13 April 2011 (BST)
I thought that Bafath guys and neo-NAZI freaks were the biggest threats for the mission, but now this Contact Report 121 makes me think that the core group members were the strongest factors that could cancel the mission.
---- M -- 16:42, 11 April 2011 (BST)